WVC Philosophy 6Sandra LaFave's Notes on John Perry's Dialog on Personal Identity and Immortality The First Night
Gretchen Weirob, who is dying from injuries suffered
in a motorcycle accident, makes clear from the start that
all she wants is an argument that personal survival after death is conceivable. By definition, to talk about personal survival after death is as survival
of the same person that was formerly alive. So the question of
immortality presupposes the question of personal identity: we need to know
what it means to say a person is the same person at a later time (T2) as she
was at an earlier time (T1). The notion of personal identity also underlies memory (a heavenly person
will remember her life on earth) and anticipation (an earthly person
can anticipate her future in heaven). Gretchen would like to be able
to anticipate her own survival after death not the survival
of a Gretchen-copy, "someone who looks and sounds and thinks" just like Gretchen. We cannot say a person survives if the persons parts
(e.g., the person's atoms or quarks) survive. What's true at the level of atoms isn't
necessarily true at the level of bodies. To assume that what's true of the atoms is
necessarily true of the bodies they comprise is to commit
the fallacy of composition.
"Merger with Being" is not a solution, either, since it does not guarantee
personal immortality. Religious people like Miller talk as though personal immortality is
unproblematic. They say, e.g., "Well meet in heaven."
(Sometimes they even suppose that well meet in heaven with the same bodies
we had on earth.) But surely this is nonsense. Both Miller and Weirob agree that if there is
survival after death at all, it must be survival of something other than the body.
I take this to be the point of the Box of Kleenex argument (p. 5). What survives
must be mind or soul or consciousness. So if theres personal immortality,
personal identity must be identity of soul: we must "have"
or "be" the very same soul after death. Weirobs main conclusion in this section: that even if disembodied
souls exist (which she doubts), "they can by their nature provide no
principle of personal identity." (17) Her arguments: P1: Souls by definition cannot be sensed in any way. (Miller agrees with this.) C1: Therefore, there is no way to show that a soul is the same soul from
one day to the next, or even from one moment to the next. P2: Yet we make judgments about personal identity all the time. For example,we dont hesitate
to say we know that "Mom" today is the same
person that was around when we were smaller. C2: (from C1 and P2) Our judgments about personal identity cant be
based on any knowledge of sameness of soul. I.e., even if souls exist, they
are irrelevant to judgments of personal identity. Miller responds to this that bodies are the same from one occasion to the
next, and souls dont just spontaneously leap out of bodies (the"anti-kangaroo principle").
Weirob replies that if P1 is true,the anti-kangaroo principle is groundless. Miller now tries another tack: we know personal identity through sameness of
psychological characteristics, which simply are characteristics of soul.
Weirobs responds that if P1 is true, we cannot equate
sameness of psychological characteristics with sameness of soul. Weirob would
say sameness of psychological characteristics is caused by sameness of body or brain. Miller tries a Cartesian argument: "I just know Im the same soul
from one moment to the next." Gretchens answer: you may know youre the same person,
but if P1 is true, you cant know youre the same soul. Maybe the soul is
occasionally replaced by a psychologically similar one. Maybe its constantly
replaced; maybe theres a virtual stream of
psychologically-similar souls going through the same body. Maybe a person is
the same person in the same way a river is the same river even though the water
is never exactly the same. In summary: P1: If judgments of personal identity were made on the basis of knowledge of
sameness of souls, we wouldnt be able make such judgments at all, let alone
make them with certainty. P2: We do make them, and with certainty. C: Judgments of personal identity are not based on knowledge of sameness of souls.
Even if souls exist, they are irrelevant to knowledge of personal identity. I.e., personal identity cant be identity of soul. It is identity of person. For Gretchen, "person" means "body," and only "body."
And so personal identity is identity of the body. Thus it is inconceivable that a person could continue to exist
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